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Paint an Ugly Picture of 23 Years in Hell.
Jesus cometh, periodeth.

2 Timothy 4:1-4    2 Peter 3:3-13

The first time i saw the following posted in a forum . . .
(shudder -- ssshudddder)

The first time i saw the following posted in a forum . . .
i can't type it .. . . .
no . . my computer will crash . . . nooo . . .  ok,  i will change fonts.

The first time I saw the following posted in a forum . . .

Jesus is a eternal torturer." -- and the poster meant it, believed it, did not see a problem with that statement! -- Ken Floyd's response -- Mildly, forget you! -- I was first hurt, shocked, appalled, then just plain mad. Then I was hurt again, and mad again.  I wanted to post, "What prophet of Baal wrote this?!" 

My Loving Lord Jesus would never torture.  Judgment and Retribution He will measure out, but torture?  There will be some internal torture, of satan, his minions, and the lost. This torture will come from within.  Judgment and Retribution will come from God, not torture, and not forever.  Judgment and Retribution is by fire.  The Bible calls this event God's "strange act." The really hideous torture of the lost, will come from knowing, when their life is ended, they will not have even mattered, one whit.  The really hideous torture of the lost, will come from seeing, what they could have had for free, and "sins have withholden good things from you."    Isaiah 28:21    Jeremiah 5:25-26    Ezekiel 18:30    Acts 13:46

Jesus said, "depart from me you cursed." The work of that fire is everlasting, Eternal. The fire of God's justice, judgment, and mercy is everlasting, Eternal.  God alone is naturally Eternal.  There is no other beside Him.  God can snap you out of existence, gone, forever, without even blinking an eye.  The little devil and the lost will be not.    Matthew 25:41    Ezekiel 27:36    Nahum 1:9    Acts 17:28    Acts 17:24-31    Jeremiah 10:11    Isaiah 48:10-13    Isaiah 44:8

Jesus the Christ is . . . I SAY IS . . . the EXPRESS IMAGE OF THE FATHER  and   FULL OF JUDGMENT MERCY AND TRUTH.    John 14:9    Psalm 89:14    Psalm 86:15    Psalm 115:1    Proverbs 14:22    Hosea 4:1

The Bible says, "A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory."    Matthew 12:20

Hell is a time and event.  The place is Earth.  Hell's result is the grave.  The grave is eternal, without Christ.  Eventually even death will die, for there will be no more death.  The death will last for ever.  The Fire of the Torment, will not last forever.   2 Timothy 4:1-8   2 Peter 3:1-15    Isaiah 28:21-23    Revelation 20:14-15    thru Revelation 21:1    Revelation 21:1-27 

REPEAT, the Fire which God will use to cleanse the earth and rid it of all that sins, the Fire that is often called Hell, will not last for-ever.  Eventually it will have done its work.  Even the hardest sinners, even Satan himself, cannot, will not, stand the wrath of God.  They will be not. 

Common sense tells you a merciful God will not torture.  Would God want to give his enemies life forever, if they endure a little discomfort?  Would God want them around at all to blaspheme Him some more?  If you are confronted with a dog that has rabies, do you pen it up and scorch it with a torch every few minutes?  No, dear reader, you being merciful, put the dog out of its misery. 

I will not want that fire put out either.  However, it will eventually, go out.  After however long the Lord sees fit, I think he will find a better fuel.  That little devil satan cannot stand the wrath of God.  Who does he think he is.  There is judgment and retribution.  Yet it is honest and just judgment and retribution.  There may be some repayment seven fold, but who ever heard of infinite interest.   "Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."    Romans 12:19

Poor old Joe Schmo who never really did anything in His life, except refuse the Gospel Message, probably won't last the judgment and retribution of God for more than a few seconds.  He helped Grandma get groceries every once in awhile.  He just unjustly, did not believe, any of that 'god stuff.'

I, ken, can not imagine satan surviving the full judgment and retribution of God for more than . . . maybe . . . 23 years.  The real Hell is a very ugly picture.  Yet justice may decide much longer than that.  The apostle Paul said, "judge nothing before the time."  In another place he said, "Know ye not that we shall judge angels?"    1 Corinthians 4:5    1 Corinthians 6:3

And besides.  HELL IS A LOT WORSE, a whole lot worse, than the popular conception.  HELL in its purest form is the grave, sheol, period.  Yes, the grave is Eternal, without God, without Christ, no life, period.  Except for the promise of a resurrection of life from God, all men would die forever.  The death we die here now has a resurrection.  There are two resurrections.  Those having part in the first resurrection have Eternal Life from our Lord.  Those having part in the second resurrection have Eternal Second Death from our Lord.    Revelation 20:5-6    Revelation 20:11-15    Malachi 3:5-7

In Noah's day God overflowed the world by water. The fires of the last day will consume.
    2 Peter 3:10-13    2 Peter 3:1-18    Luke 17:26-27    Matthew 24:37-39

Jesus said, "And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all."  Most people were and are too busy with doing their own thing to care.    Luke 17:26-27    Luke 17:26-37

Everyone knows the best way to get rid of a garbage dump is to burn it.  You just have to deal with the smoke.  The smoke of the torment of the lost will go up forever, into the outer darkness, to remain there forever,
FORGOTTEN.  Can't see it, dark smoke in outer darkness.  Can't hear it.  Can't smell it.  Can't feel it.  Won't remember it, period.    Revelation 14:11    Matthew 25:30

The real Hell is what happens before one has to die that second death.  What?  You don't know about the SECOND DEATH?  From God's perspective, the death men die now is temporary.  Most of the time life is a kind of hell, and war is hell, and death is hell.  Yet the death from this world is not really even death.  The death that puts you in the pit of the grave is temporary.  When men and women go to their "long home" they are dead.  From God's perspective you are asleep.  God still has your spiritual blueprint on record.  Yet one has no  influence on "any thing that is done under the sun."  Jesus said, "Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee:"  Tonight, if God snapped his fingers, your spirit and breath would return to Him, and you would die.  "It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:"   Jesus said there are two resurrections.    John 5:28-30    Ecclesiastes 9:5-7    Luke 12:20    Hebrews 9:27-28    Ecclesiastes 12:1-8

The fire of the last day causes the SECOND DEATH.  Hell and the second death do not cause second, second class life forever, if you can stand a little pain, thing.

You have scoffers who say, "The only hell you will get is here on this earth."
You have heard zealots say, "God is going to burn you in hell for that."

Both are wrong.  And both are right.  But the spirit of both the above attitudes is ungodly and evil.  Period.  It is satan's studied effort deception.  The spirit of a half truth is evil, just as a bald faced lie is evil.  When satan deceived Eve he told her, "ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."  Well . . . he was half right.    Genesis 3:4-5

Satan and his fallen angels were created . . . well, angels. Though they left "their first estate" and became demons, they still have the being with which they were created.  Satan and his fallen angels probably have never experienced a toothache?! -- Wonder what their first reaction to that kind of pain will be.  Wonder what happens when they 'get to' feel what some of their own bindings feel like.    Jude 1:6    Luke 13:16

Many of us human beings know what toothaches and pain are all about.  How about satan's first blinding migraine, Wonder how he will react to that.  All us humans know we will die that first death.  "There is no discharge in that war;"  Satan and his fallen conspirators probably don't believe God will ever destroy anyone eternally.  God hasn't yet.  It is called God's strange act.  Satan may believe he can 'deal' with God.  It worked with/on Job.  That little devil tried to contend with God for the body of Moses, but did not get to keep him.  This is one reason satan wants so many lost in "the house of his prisoners."  The lost are that little devil's way of having hostages.  Satan is deceived himself.  God Has promised to make an utter end.  Sin will not arise a second time.    Ecclesiastes 8:8    Isaiah 28:21    Isaiah 14:16-17    Nahum 1:7-9          Job 1:6-12    Jude 1:9

Jesus came to seek and save the lost. "Hear ye Him."    Matthew 17:5

God has also promised a new heavens and a new earth where the former things of pain will not be remembered or come to mind.    2 Peter 3:13    Isaiah 65:17

The lost, all of them, will also have the thoughts and feelings of the pain of death, before the second death.  There is Plenty of that brief suffering before death in this world.  Just as you see suffering before the first death, there is suffering before the second death.  You have heard of a man seeing his life flash before him, just before death from this world.  No wonder the devils believe also and tremble.  No wonder the lost will wail when they see it.  No wonder there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth in the outer darkness.  When all, I say all, the lost see what they have lost, for no reason at all, (shudder, ssshudddderr), they will weep.    James 2:19    (weeping+gnashing search)

The last days of this Earth will be horrendous, horrific, horrible, period.  After God shakes the earth and man to find what cannot be shaken.  After Jesus says, "It is done."  After the lead up to the Second Coming of Christ, then we, His people will say, "Lo this is our God we have waited for him."  The lost will cry for the rocks to fall on them to hide them from His face.  The Bible says, "all faces shall gather blackness."    Hebrews 12:25-27    Revelation 21:5-7    Revelation 22:10-12    Isaiah 25:9    Revelation 6:15-17    Joel 2:6    Joel 2:1-32    Nahum 2:10    Jeremiah 30:5-7

That is kinda scary, hellish, and hell on earth of itself.  Yet, hell is not over, yet.

Before those events God says He will seal His people and mark them for salvation.  From that time on, the righteous will stay righteous, the unrighteous will stay unrighteous.  Every man's destiny will be decided.  Jesus' return is then imminent.  Dear Reader, Jesus Comes, Period.    Revelation 7:1-4    Revelation 22:10-12

Then He will withdraw His calming influence from Earth.  Without the restraint of God, anarchy will reign.  Many people will go wild for want of food and fear of violence.  The righteous will hide, and be hidden, in the Lord.    Revelation 7:1-3    Revelation 22:10-14    Genesis 6:3    Daniel 12:1    Proverbs 28:12-13     Psalm 27:5

Imagine, one who is a nominal do great things lip service christian.  The rapture did not happen.  Everything is all out of course.  Robbers stole the food you had stored in your barn.  Marauders just raped your wife, killed your children, stripped you, and are threatening to eat you.  There are other hellish scenarios this world has, and will have.  Often my personal prayers are, "Lord have mercy on us ALL."

Or, imagine mr/ms smooth things right reverend pastor when they are looting and destroying your church.  The congregation has turned on you screaming, "Why, Why, Why didn't you tell us these things."  Your wife and kids are with them.  And they all are threatening to eat ya.

Or, imagine, mr/ms lord hath not spoken apostolic prophet evangelizing pastoral teachers.
Everyone wants their money back.  And they are eating ya.  Just before you Have To Look Jesus In The Eyes.

God has chosen His people and protected them.  As men grow worse, God begins to pour out the seven last plagues upon man.  When the last plague is given, Jesus begins His return.  When the sky rolls back, and Jesus appears, all unrighteous people are killed by the "brightness of His coming."    Revelation 15:1-8    Revelation 16:1-21    Revelation 8:1    Revelation 6:14   Matthew 24:27    2 Thessalonians 2:1-13

When Jesus appears, all God's people will be changed.  Sinful flesh will die.  The righteous are given a new, spiritual body, "like unto his glorious body."  The sin full flesh of the saved will die and disappear.  Their bodies will be changed.  The Saints will rise from the earth to meet Jesus in the sky.    Philippians 3:20-22    1 Corinthians 15:51-52    1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

After meeting Jesus in the sky, the redeemed will go with Jesus to Heaven.  There they will judge both men and angels.  Things hidden to them will be made plain, and we will "know even as we are known."    1 Corinthians 6:2-3    1 Corinthians 4:5    1 Corinthians 13:9-13

Satan is now confined, enveloped in the in darkness of this world. -- Pray God keeps you from that little devil! -- When satan crucified Christ, he proved his nature to the entire universe. . . Except some stubborn & blind men, and stubborn & blind women still cannot see satan's true malice.  People "who are taken captive by him at his will."    2 Timothy 2:25-27

By the Holy Spirit of God, Jesus preached a sermon to that fallen angelic choir.  YOU ARE NOW IN PRISON was the sermon.  No Longer could satan accuse God's children to His face.  Still and Now satan is confined, to this earth, in the darkness of his pit.  Still and Now, the house of his prisoners is not opened.  God will open the graves of all, the saved and the lost, "in the resurrection unto life" or "in the resurrection unto damnation."  Jesus has the "keys of heaven and hell."  Jesus is the one who "openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;"    1 Peter 3:18-20    Revelation 12:10    Isaiah 14:16-19    Isaiah 42:6-8          John 5:28-30     Revelation 3:6-13

After the plague of hail, the earthquake, and the second coming of Christ, the earth will be physically torn up.  All men are either dead, or with Christ in Heaven.  Satan and the rest of the fallen angels are still confined to the earth.  With no one to tempt, these demons are then "chained" for a thousand years.  During this time, the saints in Heaven learn the secret things.    Revelation 20:1-3    Matthew 13:35    Luke 8:17    Romans 2:13-17
    1 Corinthians 4:5    1 Corinthians 6:2-3

A thousand years after the second coming, Jesus and the saints will return, with the city, the New Jerusalem.  Really.  This is not some half baked, we have to take the mount and cover it with gold thing.  The Real New Jerusalem is a city of very precious stone which, once delivered by God from Heaven to Earth, becomes the capital of the New Earth.  This city will become God's new home.    Revelation 21:1-27 

Then God resurrects the unrighteous.  They have not changed.  Satan is "loosed out of his prison" and the righteous watch from the city.  The unrighteous will try to take the city by force.  When they have surrounded the Holy City, fire will come down from God out of heaven and consume all impurities.    Revelation 20:7-15 

Yet God does nothing in haste. Satan is loosed out of his prison for a little season.  Now the righteous can see this deceiver do his dirty work, without seeing through a glass darkly.  The Bible says we shall look narrowly on satan, and say "Is this the man that made the earth to tremble?"    Isaiah 14:15-17

Now let us watch this HELL get a little more hellish.  The Bible says, "And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog."
    Revelation 20:7-9

God has just performed this "resurrection unto damnation."  Satan and his minions now have someone to tempt again.  The lost are resurrected with pretty much the same body they died in.  Only it is not so pretty a body.  God does not go to special lengths to cure them.  Satan goes among the lost and heals, picks up his old lies, the best lies he has got, and begins to deceive again.  Again he will deceive every lost man, woman, and child, that ever lived.  Only now it does not matter.  Gog and MaGog are alive and well . . . sick & deceived, and do not change.  After enough time, satan marshals all his forces.  A great army led by demons, all the powerful evil men of all time is assembled.  They make new instruments of war.  Then they march on the Holy City.    John 5:28-30

As the lost get closer to the New Jerusalem the sky get lighter. The closer they get, the lighter the brilliance of the glow.  As they begin to glimpse it they are awed and blinded.  Satan rallies the lost again, lies some more, "They have usurped the city, it is rightfully ours, God won't kill, I can deal with God . . .", ??? the lost still believe him.  The lost are lost.

Then everything stops and is silent.

Then God the Father, God the Ancient of Days, God the Most Glorious I AM says, "Why hast thou troubled us? the LORD shall trouble thee this day."    Joshua 7:25    Joshua 7:24-26

The Lord Jesus, King of Kings and Lord of Lords says, "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:"    Matthew 25:41

The righteous say amen. "Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the LORD: we have blessed you out of the house of the LORD."     Psalm 118:26    Psalm 118:1-29

The lost say, "Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord."  Luke 13:35   Luke 13:31-35

Then everything stops and is silent.

Then it gets more hellish.  As the lost realize they are lost, their torment really begins.  The lost see the saints, watching from the Glorious City, the New Jerusalem.  The lost see that Salvation was available to everyone.  The lost SEE WHAT THEY LOST, SEE WHAT THEY COULD HAVE HAD.

The lost get to live this hell, just before they die, really.

Then the lost turn on their demonic 'guardians,' and start tearing them to shreds.  The demons DO NOT TORMENT THE LOST in hell.  THE LOST TORMENT DEMONS, before God burns them all up.  The internal anger and hatred, in the torment of the lost, will be unleashed on Satan and his crew of evil angels and evil men.  Satan, demons, and lost, will burn from within and without.  The Bible says, "And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs."    Revelation 14:14-20

Then, "fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them."    Revelation 20:9

This is the second death.  The fire will burn all that is unclean and impure, from Satan down to the very stones.  When the ashes cool, God will make a "new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."  God will not torment during this strange act, but He will make a short work of the clean up job.  The Bible calls it God's "strange act."  When the fuel is exhausted, and Satan smolders out, God will create a New Earth.  All sin and sinners will be gone, consumed, devoured, destroyed.  God will "wipe away all tears," "the former 'things' shall not be remembered nor come into mind."  He says, "Behold, I make all things new."     Revelation 20:14    2 Peter 3:12-13    Romans 9:28    Isaiah 28:21    Revelation 21:4-5          Isaiah 65:17-25

Most sinners, most sinners, were never any good at being sinners anyway.  They won't last seconds in the Fire of God's Judgment and Retribution.  The real torment of the lost will be from knowing, their little life, did not matter one whit.  They will not be remembered or come to mind.  The lost are doomed to eternal nothingness, in an undefined puff of smoke, somewhere in the outer darkness, after they burn up.  And they get to know where they are going before they get there.  The lost get to know how they are going to get there.  And the lost get to know who "sent" them there.

Satan and his angels may burn for 23 years, or 23 thousand years.  That is God's business.  When God determines they are reduced to little puffs of smoke in the dark, it will be truly over, and they, the lost, all of them, did not matter one whit. 
Then it is over. It is then truly done. 

I, Ken Floyd, think 23 years to consume and devour this instigator of death would be more than generous of our Heavenly Father.  Twenty three thousand years may be too soon.  God the Father, in judgment, and justice, and retributions, knows that little devil's fate.  Satan will be terminated.  Done for.  Done with.  Gone.  Poof.  The Bible says, "affliction shall not rise up the second time."    Nahum 1:9

God promises to make all things new, period.    Revelation 21:5    Revelation 21:1-8

"And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.  Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."    Revelation 22:12-14

Jesus Comes.

At your service in Jesus Christ, Ken Floyd

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